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I never experienced anything paranormal before I moved into that house.

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I have no idea.

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I'm here.

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Hear it?

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He's walking back and forth up there.

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Quiet, everyone.

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Shh, shh, quiet.

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We didn't expect anything to happen.

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But this night was different.

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I'm getting goosebumps.

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I can recall that moment.

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He was lifted through the air.

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What happened?

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I was in shock.

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I was worried they would find me dead.

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Or that I would find them dead.

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I was 23 years old.

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I had a two-year-old son.

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And I was six or seven months pregnant with my daughter.

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My husband and I were having problems.

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And we just decided it was better for us and the kids

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if we just weren't together.

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I was looking for a place to rent.

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And I wasn't looking for anything in particular.

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I just stumbled across that place.

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I liked it right away.

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Yeah.

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It was a little bungalow.

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It was off the street.

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It was private.

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It was the perfect place to start a new life.

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My ambitions were taking to school

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and to get a job that I could support my family with.

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I was trying to get my degree.

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So there was a lot of work at home, a lot of study.

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And this picture in my mind, everything was just going to be perfect.

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But after about a month or so, I started to hear

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sounds around the house.

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It sounded like pebbles.

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Like somebody dropped a handful of pebbles

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from the top of the wall.

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And they just fell all the way to the bottom.

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That is not a normal sound that a house makes.

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It was just so distinctive.

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It gave me a shiver of my spine.

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Bit by bit, I began to realize that a lot of the activity was coming from above me.

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It happened every night.

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Very particular strange sound.

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Very high pitched.

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I went to the hospital.

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I was in a hospital.

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I was in a hospital.

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I was in a hospital.

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I was in a hospital.

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I was in a hospital.

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I was in a hospital.

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Very high pitched.

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I almost swear it hurts your ears.

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It seemed to be coming from up in the attic.

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I noticed that the trap door was open.

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I never would have opened that door.

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I wanted to put the door on right.

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I started to think that I was not alone.

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That there was other things in that house besides me.

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Hey.

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You okay?

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My close friends were staying more and more often.

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I remember telling my friend Susan some of the things that happened.

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So what's up?

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She was a big support.

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They said like they're coming from the ceiling.

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We heard a big bang coming from the kitchen.

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One of the pictures that was hanging on the walls

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prompt up against the sink.

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The nails were also placed.

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They were standing perfectly on their heads.

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Nails can't come directly out of a hole.

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Come down and end up on their heads.

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Somebody or something did that.

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One of the neighbors was a young girl.

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She was 16 years old.

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Her name was Tina.

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She would come over and babysit for me.

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I thought that she was really, really nice.

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And she was a really dedicated mom.

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I'll see you soon, okay?

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Yeah.

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Be good.

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I enjoyed her company a lot.

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We used to talk and hang out even when I wasn't babysitting.

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Okay. Have a good night.

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Jackie was out and she had asked me to babysit.

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And Jamie was asleep.

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It was getting pretty late.

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I hadn't heard any noise for a while.

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I wanted to just make sure he's okay and peek in on him.

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The door just opened for me.

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And I thought, well, that's weird.

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Turned around and pushed the door, closed behind me.

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The latch caught the door.

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Jamie, it was fine.

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The door was locked.

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I thought, well, I'm sorry.

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I'm sorry.

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I'm sorry.

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I'm sorry.

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I'm sorry.

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I'm sorry.

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I'm sorry.

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But then coming back, the same thing happened.

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I thought, maybe, you know, that's the house.

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It's the floor's not level.

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If you step here, it's going to swing the door.

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I would explain it away, explain it away.

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But when it got to the point that I couldn't explain it away,

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it was very frightening.

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How's school going?

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It's all right.

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We were just talking, making something to eat.

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Hey, do you see this?

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I looked up and there was these lights.

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What is that?

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I have no idea.

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It wasn't something that I've ever seen before.

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It's not like a reflection off of anything.

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They had, like, substance to them, you know?

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I do not want to be in her house.

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I remember grabbing the camera and taking some pictures.

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Oh, God.

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And then all of a sudden, the camera stopped working.

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What is wrong with this thing?

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She handed me the camera and she's like,

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see if you can get it to work.

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And I thought, well, maybe if we're not trying to take pictures

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of the lights, it'll work.

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So I pointed it out the kitchen window.

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I saw a face in the viewfinder of an emaciated old man,

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almost skeleton-like.

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I just had to run.

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When that happened, there was no doubt in my mind

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that there was something in that house.

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What number is that?

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Nine.

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Nine, yeah.

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Seven.

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Seven.

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What is that one?

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My ex-husband, Al, used to come and visit every now and then.

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He was very, very good with Jamie.

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I was telling Al some of the things that had been going on in the house.

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I think there's something wrong with this house.

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She felt that there was something very odd about the house.

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She's just, I feel something here.

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You get this cold feeling about it.

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Truthfully, I thought that she was trying to draw attention

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and trying to draw my attention to the fact that she was alone.

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He didn't believe me, did he?

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He didn't really believe me. He thought I was exaggerating.

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Without a doubt, I had to assume that maybe something was wrong with her.

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I thought, how can I explain this to her where she'll feel that,

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yeah, that's right. That's what it is.

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Nothing to worry about.

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There has to be an explanation.

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He was trying to talk to me and saying, you know, why don't you just call it out, challenge it?

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What?

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Call it out.

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I said, well, if you are here, then let's see.

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Show yourself.

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I was just terrified. I'm like, what the heck is he doing? What's going to happen next?

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Nothing did happen. It was just still...

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See?

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See when I can.

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I go into the closet.

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An entire wall was written out, A in blue and L in red.

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It was written hundreds and hundreds of times.

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That was the answer to the challenge.

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If I had the money, I would have moved out right away.

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But there was no way I could have moved with the expense that it cost to move.

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You need to tell someone what's going on here.

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Susan said maybe you should tell the landlords what's going on.

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It's their house.

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You remember me saying I don't want to tell anybody because I don't want them to think I'm nuts.

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It was a few weeks later that I was out walking with Susan.

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I was eight or nine months pregnant at the time.

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Landlord and his wife were also coming back.

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We bumped into each other on the sidewalk.

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And then Sue just brought up the activity that was happening in the house.

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Jackie's having some trouble at the house.

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When the landlord acted concerned about it, I thought maybe he's not going to think I'm crazy.

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He asked if I had any objection to them bringing in a priest.

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So I said sure.

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I just didn't have a good feeling towards them from the very beginning.

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They both seemed to be very cynical about everything.

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Like they were judging me.

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I see you like horror movies.

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Those ones are my ex-husbands.

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Your ex-husband?

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No.

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I'm not your ex-husband.

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I'm not your ex-husband.

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Your ex-husband?

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Yeah.

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I had an aquarium on the bottom.

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There was a little ornament of a skeleton.

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He said that I was bringing death into my house.

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I'm sorry?

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Let's go.

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That just struck me as odd.

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I had a collection of dolls from different countries.

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There was one thing that was a souvenir from the Caribbean.

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He said it was a voodoo doll.

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By that point I was feeling very, very uncomfortable.

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It seems to me like you are bringing most of this trouble on yourself.

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I'll be right back. I just have to go get myself.

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Jamie was screaming.

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They said my son wasn't acting normal and that he was possessed by the devil.

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That's why he was crying.

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He said can we bless your son?

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Mommy!

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The son.

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Jamie was screaming. He didn't want this guy near him.

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Mommy!

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Then they said don't you want to bless the unborn too?

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The father.

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The son.

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But everything they said as far as I was concerned when they entered that house was ridiculous.

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Go.

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Fish.

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Wings.

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The following day was going to be a long one for me because I had an assignment due.

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Hi Jackie Hernandez.

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Yes.

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Hi, I'm from social services.

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I'm wondering if you have a moment that I can come in and speak with you.

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That just caught me totally off guard.

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Like, you know, what would social services be doing here?

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Come on in. Thank you.

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Sorry about the latest.

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It was like probably the worst time ever that they could have knocked on my door and come in.

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I hadn't had a chance to clean it that morning.

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Jamie had chocolate cupcake on his face.

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He was still in his pajamas.

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Can I ask why you're here?

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We had a report.

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She said they had a report from the two priests that I had been on hallucinogenics and I was pregnant.

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I'm sorry.

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It was just so off the wall to me and crazy.

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I had never taken any drugs.

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I wasn't even drinking.

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I was worried for my kids.

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It is possible to take your children, even if you are a perfect mother.

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That's everything I need for today.

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Just taught me the lesson.

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Things are better left unsaid because you never know what can happen if you tell people.

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I wasn't going to say anything to anybody ever again.

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Shortly after that, I had Samantha, my daughter.

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I brought her home and after everything that happened, I was really hesitant about bringing her there, but I had no choice.

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A couple of days later, I returned from grocery shopping. I had the bags in my arm.

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It's spelled get the hell out.

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The doors were still locked. Everything else was untouched.

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There was no logical explanation. None.

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I knew at that point it was not friendly and it didn't want me around because that was definitely directed at me.

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I knew at that point it was not friendly and it didn't want me around because that was definitely directed at me.

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I knew at that point it was not friendly and it didn't want me around because that was definitely directed at me.

265
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I was afraid of going to sleep because I had to watch over those kids and what if I wasn't able to see what was happening to them.

266
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I had to put them in the bedroom and Samantha slept in a little bassinet next to me.

267
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It's a level of fear build up more and more every night.

268
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I can remember waking up in here and breathing.

269
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It was loud and it was distinctive.

270
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I can't even describe the feeling of being as scared as I was.

271
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I saw somebody sitting on the bunk bed.

272
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I was just totally terrified.

273
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I looked up again and he was gone.

274
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Every single shade in the house went up at the same time.

275
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I was just so scared.

276
00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:29,000
You can't rationalize that I didn't sleep the rest of the night.

277
00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:32,000
I was just trembling all night. I remember that.

278
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It was important for me not to let the kids see how frightened I was.

279
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I had to keep it away from him.

280
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I would try not to allow myself to be afraid.

281
00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:53,000
I was afraid of being afraid.

282
00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:56,000
I was afraid of being afraid.

283
00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:02,000
I would try not to allow myself to be afraid.

284
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At least pretend like I wasn't.

285
00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,000
It is the most helpless feeling.

286
00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:17,000
There's something that's in the house that actually was there before you came.

287
00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:22,000
So it's not your house. It's their territory, not yours.

288
00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:26,000
So you're the intruder. That's how I felt. I felt like I was the intruder.

289
00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:39,000
Listen, you can't go on like this. You gotta get some help.

290
00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:45,000
My friend Susan said that she had a number that she had gotten that was a parapsychologist.

291
00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,000
You know, I should call him and get some help.

292
00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,000
I want you to call him, okay?

293
00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:50,000
No way.

294
00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:55,000
I said no because of what had happened the last time I allowed somebody into the house.

295
00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,000
I really think you need to call him.

296
00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:02,000
She gave me the number anyway and said, here, call it when you're ready.

297
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,000
And I put it into a drawer.

298
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:14,000
Later on, I remember I was doing dishes. It was pretty late.

299
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,000
My first reaction was I cut myself.

300
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:36,000
But when I turned around, it was coming out of the cabinets.

301
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:42,000
It was forming on the glass. It was all around me.

302
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,000
It was infecting my kitchen.

303
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,000
I thought I gotta do something.

304
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,000
I called the parapsychologist.

305
00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:01,000
I remember the night that the paranormal team arrived.

306
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:07,000
My ex-husband happened to be visiting the kids at the time, which was good because he could keep them occupied.

307
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,000
She told me she had found these people.

308
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,000
I told her that I was going to be in the hospital.

309
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,000
I told her that I was going to be in the hospital.

310
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,000
I told her that I was going to be in the hospital.

311
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,000
I told her that I was going to be in the hospital.

312
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:30,000
She told me she had found these people that investigated such happenings.

313
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,000
You okay?

314
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:38,000
I kind of thought, why not? This is perfect.

315
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:42,000
These people will come in. They won't find anything.

316
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,000
And we're done with it.

317
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:48,000
And I was ready to wipe my hands of it and say goodbye, good riddance.

318
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,000
Hi. Come on in.

319
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,000
The parapsychologist himself came in first.

320
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,000
Jackie?

321
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:57,000
Yes.

322
00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:01,000
After him came this whole herd of people carrying cameras.

323
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,000
That was something I didn't expect. It was like a circus.

324
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,000
Mary, where are you going to want the lights set on?

325
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:11,000
As a cameraman, I've been a professional videographer for many years.

326
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:17,000
I thought, well, you know, it's one thing to go into a haunting and hear all of these stories.

327
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,000
But it's another thing if we could capture something on video tape.

328
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,000
I think any cameraman worth the salt would say the same thing.

329
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,000
How's that? You think that's a good idea?

330
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,000
I think that's a good idea.

331
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:31,000
They already had it pre-planned. What they were going to do, they never informed me of it.

332
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,000
They were going to document it.

333
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:39,000
I'm still a little confused as to what's going on.

334
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:45,000
I'm just going to do a quick interview and have you tell us something amazing, stuff that you've experienced here in the house.

335
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,000
I do not want to document it. I wanted it out of my house.

336
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:51,000
I wanted it gone. I wanted normality.

337
00:23:56,000 --> 00:24:00,000
So, Jackie, why don't you tell us a little bit about what's going on?

338
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,000
Jackie herself seems scared.

339
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,000
We wanted to find out what her experiences were in the house.

340
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,000
You can feel the presence. You can sense the presence.

341
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,000
Yeah.

342
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:16,000
One of the paranormal teams was very skeptical.

343
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:20,000
You could tell by the look on his face and Barry Conrad was just the opposite.

344
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,000
Something you can't explain.

345
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:23,000
Yeah, there's just...

346
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:27,000
There's something wrong. There's something here all the time.

347
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:34,000
All of a sudden, the light goes off right during the interview.

348
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,000
Problem with power?

349
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:48,000
You know, they're just thinking maybe the electricity went out. There was fuse or whatever.

350
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,000
And I knew. I knew exactly what it was.

351
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:58,000
He was angry that these people were in the house and I just knew that.

352
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,000
Then the light goes back on.

353
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,000
Okay.

354
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,000
He's coming from up there.

355
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,000
I told him about the noises I've heard in the attic.

356
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,000
From the attic.

357
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,000
Yeah.

358
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:18,000
So I remember asking my friend who was still a photographer if he might want to go up there and take a few photos.

359
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:22,000
Sure, why not? What else are we here for? Let's go.

360
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,000
He was the one who was very skeptical.

361
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:34,000
In fact, he whispered in my ear, he says it'll be a cool drink in hell before I ever believe that there's a ghost in his house.

362
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,000
You had enough space up there?

363
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:49,000
I was laying there just kind of listening. I was wide awake. I wasn't sleeping or anything like that.

364
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:04,000
I'm getting goosebumps because I recall that moment.

365
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:10,000
I heard something whisper into my ear so clearly.

366
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:24,000
Seconds. After I heard this, I heard someone yell from the attic.

367
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:39,000
I heard something whisper into my ear so clearly.

368
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,000
Tell them to get the hell out of here.

369
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:51,000
My friend comes bolting down. All the color drained out of him.

370
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:55,000
Something just grabbed the camera right out of my hand, man. Pulled it right out of my hand.

371
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,000
You sure you didn't just drop it or catch it on something?

372
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,000
Something grabbed my camera.

373
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:05,000
All of a sudden all that skepticism that he had before was gone, erased.

374
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:11,000
He was really, really scared, but I think that his concern for his livelihood overcame his fear because this was how he made his living.

375
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,000
He was a still photographer.

376
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,000
I gotta get that camera.

377
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,000
I'm not gonna let him go.

378
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,000
I'm not gonna let him go.

379
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,000
I'm not gonna let him go.

380
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:26,000
He overcame his fear because this is how he made his living. He was a still photographer.

381
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,400
It's a $2,000 camera. I've got to get it.

382
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,600
Come with me. I'll be right behind you, okay?

383
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,640
He decided to go back up into the attic to find his camera.

384
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:44,640
...

385
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,880
I put up a thousand-watt light.

386
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:51,080
I wanted to see every nook and cranny of the attic.

387
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,480
You don't see anything?

388
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,480
I don't see anything yet.

389
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,480
I don't see the camera anywhere.

390
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:03,160
...

391
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,160
I don't think I shot more than a minute.

392
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,160
The camera completely neutralized.

393
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,160
Can you change the battery on that?

394
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,660
...

395
00:28:12,660 --> 00:28:15,160
So they changed the battery, and it worked just fine downstairs,

396
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,160
but they pulled through the hole, and it wouldn't work at all again.

397
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,160
I'm just gonna get anything on here.

398
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,160
How can this be?

399
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,160
Is this the new battery?

400
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,840
...

401
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,840
I got it.

402
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,840
They finally did find the body of the camera

403
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,840
on one corner of the attic.

404
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,840
It was lying face down in a little crate.

405
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,840
The lens had been removed.

406
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,840
I got the lens here.

407
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,840
We found the lens behind the trapdoor.

408
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,840
...

409
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,520
So what do we do now?

410
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,520
Well, we take things back to the lab.

411
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,520
All of a sudden, it's like somebody's walking back and forth

412
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,520
up above us.

413
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,520
...

414
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,520
I knew I'd just been up there.

415
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,520
My friend had just been up there, and there was nobody

416
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,520
up in that attic whatsoever.

417
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:20,520
...

418
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:25,200
...

419
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,200
...

420
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,200
We did one final interview with Jackie.

421
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,200
I gotta go.

422
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,200
The whole thing was very frightening.

423
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,200
I remember telling my friend,

424
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,200
I think we better get out of here.

425
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,200
It was unbelievable to me that they were getting ready to go

426
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,200
and walk out.

427
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,200
So you're just gonna leave me here?

428
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,200
Sorry, Nady.

429
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:51,880
I was in the house, and then they were gonna leave.

430
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,880
They were gonna rile this up and leave.

431
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:55,880
Thank you very much.

432
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,880
We'll be back.

433
00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,880
I started questioning why I even called them.

434
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:03,880
...

435
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:08,880
...

436
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:13,880
...

437
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:18,880
...

438
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,560
...

439
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,560
...

440
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,560
...

441
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,560
...

442
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,560
...

443
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,560
...

444
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,560
...

445
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:46,560
...

446
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:51,240
...

447
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,240
...

448
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:59,240
...

449
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,240
...

450
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:07,240
...

451
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:13,240
...

452
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,920
...

453
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:21,920
...

454
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:26,920
...

455
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:31,920
...

456
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:33,920
...

457
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:38,920
...

458
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:40,920
...

459
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,600
...

460
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,600
...

461
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:53,600
...

462
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:58,600
...

463
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:03,600
...

464
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:08,600
...

465
00:32:08,780 --> 00:32:12,280
...

466
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,280
...

467
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,280
...

468
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:28,280
...

469
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:32,280
...

470
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:38,280
...

471
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:39,540
Oh my gosh, the kids.

472
00:32:39,540 --> 00:32:46,540
Then it let go.

473
00:32:46,540 --> 00:33:06,540
I had a baseball bat.

474
00:33:06,540 --> 00:33:08,540
Something snapped inside of me.

475
00:33:08,540 --> 00:33:11,540
I just took the bat and just said I had it.

476
00:33:11,540 --> 00:33:12,540
I had enough.

477
00:33:16,540 --> 00:33:33,540
I was expecting him to appear just like every turn I made.

478
00:33:33,540 --> 00:33:55,540
I realized that that old man's domain was the attic.

479
00:33:55,540 --> 00:33:57,540
That was his space.

480
00:33:58,540 --> 00:34:02,540
I wanted to fight for the house that I was paying to rent.

481
00:34:02,540 --> 00:34:06,540
I wanted it to be me and the kids and nothing else in that house.

482
00:34:06,540 --> 00:34:10,540
That's what drove me up there.

483
00:34:10,540 --> 00:34:17,540
Even though it wasn't a very smart thing to do, I was just fighting for what was mine.

484
00:34:17,540 --> 00:34:24,540
That was the first time I've ever went into the attic.

485
00:34:41,540 --> 00:34:43,540
Come on, show yourself!

486
00:34:43,540 --> 00:34:45,540
I was confronting him, challenging him.

487
00:34:45,540 --> 00:34:46,540
Come on!

488
00:34:46,540 --> 00:34:50,540
At least give me a fight instead of suffocating me when I'm sleeping.

489
00:34:50,540 --> 00:34:52,540
Who are you?

490
00:34:55,540 --> 00:34:57,540
Come on!

491
00:35:09,540 --> 00:35:11,540
I fell to the floor.

492
00:35:17,540 --> 00:35:20,540
I just grabbed the kids and just ran out of the house.

493
00:35:24,540 --> 00:35:27,540
I was worried I wasn't going to be able to take my kids.

494
00:35:27,540 --> 00:35:34,540
I was worried that something would happen to me and they would find me dead.

495
00:35:34,540 --> 00:35:37,540
Or that I would find them dead.

496
00:35:46,540 --> 00:35:48,540
I'm not here. Leave a message.

497
00:35:48,540 --> 00:35:50,540
Mary, it's Jackie.

498
00:35:50,540 --> 00:35:52,540
Jackie?

499
00:35:52,540 --> 00:35:54,540
Suddenly, Jackie called my answering machine.

500
00:35:54,540 --> 00:35:56,540
Jackie, is that you?

501
00:35:56,540 --> 00:35:58,540
Please, you've got to come help me.

502
00:35:58,540 --> 00:36:00,540
Absolutely terrified out of her mind.

503
00:36:00,540 --> 00:36:02,540
Please, you have to come now. There's something in the house.

504
00:36:02,540 --> 00:36:06,540
As she was talking, she suddenly cried out and she dropped the phone.

505
00:36:06,540 --> 00:36:08,540
And all of a sudden the line is cut.

506
00:36:08,540 --> 00:36:10,540
Jackie?

507
00:36:10,540 --> 00:36:12,540
We're like, Jackie, are you there?

508
00:36:12,540 --> 00:36:15,540
We don't have because she was no longer on the line.

509
00:36:15,540 --> 00:36:17,540
We're so concerned about it.

510
00:36:17,540 --> 00:36:19,540
We decided that we better go down and check it out.

511
00:36:24,540 --> 00:36:28,540
I had thought they were going to take me out of the house, so I was ready to leave.

512
00:36:28,540 --> 00:36:31,540
Jackie, please, there's something in the house. Please, we need to go now.

513
00:36:31,540 --> 00:36:33,540
They just come down.

514
00:36:33,540 --> 00:36:36,540
They bring out all their equipment, their video cameras and everything, and they go into the house.

515
00:36:36,540 --> 00:36:39,540
And I'm thinking, what are they doing?

516
00:36:40,540 --> 00:36:45,540
We were all curious. We wanted to know whether the entity really was in the house that night.

517
00:36:49,540 --> 00:36:53,540
To me, it was my life, and to them, it was making a movie.

518
00:36:53,540 --> 00:36:55,540
How are you gonna think?

519
00:36:55,540 --> 00:36:59,540
When we walked in the house, it was not a sign of anything.

520
00:37:00,540 --> 00:37:02,540
You want to go upstairs and check out the attic?

521
00:37:02,540 --> 00:37:05,540
The attic? Yeah.

522
00:37:06,540 --> 00:37:13,540
The same photographer who already had an incident up in the attic, he decides to go again into the attic.

523
00:37:14,540 --> 00:37:18,540
The photographer had a flashlight. Barry handed me just a small, insta-matic camera.

524
00:37:22,540 --> 00:37:28,540
And I think when they first went up there, they didn't really expect anything to happen because it was so quiet downstairs.

525
00:37:35,540 --> 00:37:37,540
I knew it was pitch black up there.

526
00:37:46,540 --> 00:37:49,540
There was absolutely nothing there. There was nothing in the attic.

527
00:37:51,540 --> 00:37:53,540
What's going on up there?

528
00:38:06,540 --> 00:38:18,540
There was a snapping sound like somebody snapped their fingers just like that three times.

529
00:38:20,540 --> 00:38:25,540
The cessation of being watched overcame me. It was really getting stronger.

530
00:38:26,540 --> 00:38:28,540
Something was gonna happen. I knew it.

531
00:38:28,540 --> 00:38:30,540
They need to come down. They need to come down right now.

532
00:38:30,540 --> 00:38:32,540
I started to panic and I yelled, get down please.

533
00:38:33,540 --> 00:38:35,540
I think you guys better come down.

534
00:38:35,540 --> 00:38:38,540
They just started yelling, holler and get down here. You gotta get down here. There was just panemonium.

535
00:38:38,540 --> 00:38:42,540
You guys need to get down here. You gotta come down. Come down now. There's something going on.

536
00:38:42,540 --> 00:38:44,540
Guys, you gotta come down. Please come down.

537
00:38:44,540 --> 00:38:48,540
The photographer was literally right behind me and I was looking down into the opening.

538
00:38:48,540 --> 00:38:52,540
What's going on? Seriously guys, I'm not joking. Get down here right away.

539
00:38:55,540 --> 00:38:57,540
It was like he was lifted through the air.

540
00:39:03,540 --> 00:39:09,540
Guys, you okay? What's going on up there?

541
00:39:13,540 --> 00:39:14,540
Are you alright?

542
00:39:16,540 --> 00:39:18,540
There was no response from him.

543
00:39:20,540 --> 00:39:23,540
He was 10, 15 feet off into the distance.

544
00:39:24,540 --> 00:39:26,540
I could tell he was not standing upright.

545
00:39:27,540 --> 00:39:29,540
Very odd. It's like why would he be like that?

546
00:39:33,540 --> 00:39:36,540
The only source of light I had was this little flash on a silver camera.

547
00:39:40,540 --> 00:39:46,540
He was completely off the floor of the attic. His head was off in the opposite angle because he was up against the inside of the roof.

548
00:39:49,540 --> 00:39:53,540
Completely blank expression in his face like his eyes are open but he was not there.

549
00:39:56,540 --> 00:39:59,540
Very vaguely he said, something on my neck.

550
00:40:02,540 --> 00:40:08,540
He was a noose. There's no way he could have done this himself. I mean there was enough time and it happened just like that.

551
00:40:08,540 --> 00:40:10,540
Guys, what's going on up there?

552
00:40:16,540 --> 00:40:17,540
He's absolutely terrified.

553
00:40:19,540 --> 00:40:20,540
What happened?

554
00:40:20,540 --> 00:40:25,540
He still got the thing around his neck and his neck is all swollen and it's red.

555
00:40:26,540 --> 00:40:32,540
It just had no reaction to him. It's like he didn't even know what happened. It was blank in his memory.

556
00:40:33,540 --> 00:40:35,540
We need to get out of here now. We need to cope with this.

557
00:40:35,540 --> 00:40:37,540
At that point I just wanted to get out of the house right there.

558
00:40:37,540 --> 00:40:40,540
We have to go. Can you tell him please?

559
00:40:41,540 --> 00:40:43,540
That was the last night I spent in the house.

560
00:40:56,540 --> 00:41:02,540
To this day, I am mystified by what happened in the house.

561
00:41:03,540 --> 00:41:08,540
I really truly believe we were dealing with some kind of entity.

562
00:41:10,540 --> 00:41:13,540
I never thought I would ever experience something like this. No.

563
00:41:13,540 --> 00:41:15,540
Quiet everyone. Shhh. Quiet.

564
00:41:21,540 --> 00:41:24,540
I'm not going to tell you that I believe in ghosts now.

565
00:41:25,540 --> 00:41:31,540
But I most definitely have opened my mind to the possibility.

566
00:41:49,540 --> 00:41:51,540
Alive. Alive. Alive.

567
00:41:55,540 --> 00:41:57,540
Alive. Alive.